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8th Wonderland (2008)

  • Rate: 6.2/10 total 297 votes 
  • Genre: Drama | Thriller
  • Release Date: 12 May 2010 (France)
  • Runtime: France:94 min
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8th Wonderland (2008)


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  • IMDb page: 8th Wonderland (2008)
  • Rate: 6.2/10 total 297 votes 
  • Genre: Drama | Thriller
  • Release Date: 12 May 2010 (France)
  • Runtime: France:94 min
  • Filming Location: Paris, France
  • Stars: Matthew Géczy, Robert William Bradford and Alain Azerot
  • Original Music By: Nicolas Alberny   
  • Sound Mix: Dolby Digital
  • Plot Keyword: Internet Community | Fictional Country | Cockroach | Megacorporation | Revolution

Writing Credits By:

    (in alphabetical order)

  • Nicolas Alberny  writer
  • Jean Mach  writer

Known Trivia


    FullCast & Crew

    Produced By:

    • Eric Fantone known as associate producer
    • Guillaume Letellier known as producer
    • Jean Mach known as co-producer

    FullCast & Crew:

    • Matthew Géczy known as John McClane
    • Robert William Bradford known as David
    • Alain Azerot known as César
    • Eloïssa Florez known as Isabella
    • Ahlima Mhamdi known as Rachida
    • Michael Hofland known as Karel
    • Luca Lombardi known as Giovanni
    • Dimitri Michelsen known as Dawson
    • Irina Ninova known as Ludmila
    • Laetitia Noyon known as Andie
    • Gerald Papasyan known as Ahmed
    • Pierre-Luc Scotto known as Alain
    • Nicolas Vayssie known as Esteban
    • Jesse Joe Walsh known as The Printer
    • Anton Yakovlev known as The Russian President
    • Jessica Erickson known as American journalist
    • Nikos Aliagas known as Himself
    • Vladimir Antsiferov known as Russian President's adviser
    • Angelo Aybar known as Gueriero
    • Hervé Babadi known as Cesar's friend
    • Quetzal Barrera known as Spanish TV guest
    • Maria Beloso-Hall known as Spanish TV reporter
    • George Birt known as Historian
    • Marianne Borgo known as Canadian Prime Minister's Wife
    • Deborah Burley known as Economist
    • Nicholas Calderbank known as Candidate n°4
    • Simona Caparrini known as Italian TV guest
    • Paolo Capisano known as Italian cardinal
    • Julien Cazarre known as Himself
    • Sophie Chamoux known as The Iranian Journalist
    • Joseph Chanet known as Chinese TV reporter
    • Leslie Clack known as English Prime Minister
    • Gilles Coiffard known as French Bartender
    • Liz Coke known as US emcee
    • Jacqueline Corado known as Pepa
    • Tom Cordier known as European TV reporter
    • Victor Costa known as Raùl
    • Anna Cottis known as Printer's wife
    • Eddie Crew known as Canadian emcee
    • Stephen Croce known as Passer-by
    • Burgle Cédric known as Bodyguard
    • Laura D'Arista known as Italian emcee
    • Baccara de Paris known as L'internaute
    • Enrico Di Giovanni known as Father's Giovanni's friend
    • Hamid Djavadan known as Iranian President
    • Jean-Jacques Do Santos known as Senegalese Cybercafé owner
    • Bill Dunn known as US President
    • Christian Erickson known as NASSI President
    • Antje Esser known as Swiss TV reporter
    • Cesar Estay known as Gueriero's adviser
    • Enrique Fiestas known as Gueriero's adviser
    • Pelina Giakoumelou known as Greek TV guest
    • Nicolas Golovanov known as French bum
    • Daniel Grimm known as English Prime Minister's adviser
    • Alexandre Guégan known as IRS inspector
    • Edward Hamilton-Clark known as Johnson
    • Bruno Henry known as Cesar's friend
    • Lina Herrera known as Gueriero's wife
    • Antony Hickling known as Dany
    • Agnishka Kasprzak known as Russian President's wife
    • Christopher James King known as Couturier
    • Paula Klein known as German TV reporter
    • Eleftheria Komi known as Greek TV guest
    • Bruno La Brasca known as Giovanni's father
    • Noel Lamota known as Pablo
    • Amanda Lear known as Herself
    • Julien Lepers known as Himself
    • Daniel Limodin known as Himself
    • Sarah Lloyd known as Jenny
    • Vincent Lo Monaco known as Italian President
    • Claude Lulé known as French President's adviser
    • Bruce MacEwen known as US emcee
    • Camille Mach-Lautier known as Andie and Alain's daughter
    • Evelyne Macko known as Yuichira
    • Ivan Madonia known as Father's Giovanni's friend
    • Sabrina Marques Dos Santos known as French TV reporter
    • Gilles Matheron known as CTU SWAT team leader
    • Joël Mbelo known as Cesar's friend
    • Solange Milhaud known as Giovanni's mother
    • Guy-Pierre Mineur known as English government spokesperson
    • Fatma Moakadmi known as Iraqi TV reporter
    • Melanie Molnar known as US TV reporter
    • Gerald Morales known as French President
    • Junichi Nishimata known as Japanese Prime Minister
    • Fedele Papalia known as Italian President's adviser
    • Fosco Perinti known as Giovanni's father's friend
    • Christophe Prévost known as Passer-by
    • Doug Rand known as CTU manager
    • Colin David Reese known as Canadian Prime Minister
    • Joseph Rezwin known as US emcee
    • Tim Rose known as Richards
    • Marco Sacco known as Giovanni's father's friend
    • Lorenzo Salvaggio known as Italian TV reporter
    • Andrea Schieffer known as US TV reporter
    • Mansour Sene El Hadji known as Senegalese TV reporter
    • Gen Shimaoka known as Japanese TV reporter
    • Olga Silvestrova known as Herself
    • Norman Stokle known as Irish trade unionist
    • Thomas Séraphine known as Himself
    • Sébastien Thoen known as Himself
    • Miguel Torres known as Gueriero's bodyguard
    • Bruce Van Barthold known as English TV reporter
    • Vivienne Vernes known as Anna
    • Luis Villegas known as Gueriero's bodyguard
    • Harvey Vincent known as US emcee
    • Allan Wenger known as English doctor
    • Shelley Whittingham known as Senator Palmer
    • Peter Wollasch known as German chancelier
    • Papillon Young known as English stripper
    • Saddredin Zahed known as Iranian President's adviser



    Supporting Department

    Makeup Department:
    • Delphine André known as makeup department head
    • Arnaud-Mehdi Bussy known as key makeup artist
    • Claire Prosperi known as makeup department head
    • Eugénie Raes known as makeup artist
    • David Scherer known as special makeup effects artist

    Art Department:

    • Antoine Calvo Platero known as painter
    • Olivier Carvana known as builder
    • Flore Laporte known as assistant set designer
    • Thomas Laporte known as set designer
    • Mélanie Martin known as interior designer
    • Tatiana Netchaeff known as painter
    • Ludovic Pierre known as props
    • Ludovic Pierre known as set dresser
    • Arnaud Piquet known as builder
    • Florian Tixador known as builder
    • Jean Tixador known as builder




    Production Companies:

    • M.A.D. Films
    • Mu Films


    • Help Distribution (2008) (France) (theatrical)
    • Poool Filmverleih (2011) (Austria) (theatrical)
    • Emylia (2011) (France) (video)
    • Le Chat Qui Fume (2011) (France) (video) (VOD App on iPhone)
    • Neue Visionen Filmverleih (2009) (Germany) (all media)
    • Vivarto (2009) (Poland) (all media)



    Other Stuff

    Special Effects:

    • In Efecto (visual effects and animation)

    Visual Effects by:

    • Etienne Abelé known as digital artist
    • Tiziana Annesi known as digital artist
    • Raul Carbo known as digital artist
    • Julien Duval known as digital artist
    • Adrien Flanquart known as digital artist
    • Nicolas Guazzagaloppa known as character rigger
    • Mathieu Guyot known as digital artist
    • Yannick Lecoffre known as digital artist
    • Pierre Lergenmuller known as visual effects supervisor
    • Ludovic Martos known as digital artist
    • Allan Morel known as digital artist
    • Pierre Navarre known as digital artist
    • Bruce Sicard known as digital artist
    • Alexis Soler known as digital artist

    Release Date:

    • France 16 May 2008 (Cannes Film Market)
    • France 30 October 2008 (Mediterranean Film Festival)
    • Germany 8 February 2009 (European Film Market)
    • Belgium 16 April 2009 (Brussels International Festival of Fantasy Films)
    • Turkey 17 April 2009 (Istanbul Film Festival)
    • USA 8 May 2009 (Politics on Film)
    • Canada 21 July 2009 (Fantasia Film Festival)
    • Israel 7 October 2009 (ICON Festival)
    • USA 16 October 2009 (International Horror & Sci-Fi Film Festival)
    • France 31 October 2009 (Nantes International Science Fiction Festival)
    • Brazil 7 November 2009 (Cinefantasy Film Festival)
    • Germany 10 November 2009 (Braunschweig International Film Festival)
    • UK 30 April 2010 (Sci-Fi-London)
    • UK 2 May 2010 (FAB Fest)
    • France 12 May 2010
    • Germany 5 June 2010 (Internationales FilmFest Emden Nordeney)
    • Russia 5 July 2010 (Voices Festival)
    • Brazil 15 July 2010 (Fantaspoa Film Festival)
    • Germany 12 August 2010
    • Spain 7 October 2010 (Sitges International Fantastic Film Festival)
    • USA 7 November 2010 (Trenton Film Festival)
    • USA 13 November 2010 (Chashama Film Festival)
    • Austria 7 January 2011
    • Greece 12 March 2011 (Athens International Sci-Fi & Fantasy Film Festival)
    • France April 2011 (ÉCU European Independent Film Festival)
    • France October 2011 (DVD premiere)



    Filmography links and data courtesy of The Internet Movie Database

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    1. Coventry from the Draconian Swamp of Unholy Souls
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      This movie, directed by the two fairly inexperienced but obviouslyover-ambitious and talented French filmmakers Nicolas Alberny & JeanMach, quite possibly has the most original and avant-garde screenplaythat I've seen in many years. It's also another proof that you don'tneed a lot of money in order to make a film that is captivating andgroundbreaking. "8th Wonderland" clearly cost next to nothing, butwitty satirical ideas and superbly drawn characterizations don'trequire a large budget; just an intelligent and versatile crew and anenthusiast ensemble cast. The concept of "8th Wonderland" issimultaneously simple and genius. The title refers to the very firstvirtual nation in which people of all nationalities, religions andcultures unite in chat rooms to debate and vote on how they couldimprove ruling the outside world. And this time the members – citizens,if you will – of 8th Wonderland aren't loud-mouthed geeks hiding safelybehind their computers, but devoted and resourceful academics that puttheir words into deeds as well. On a weekly basis, the citizens of 8thWonderland democratically vote on an initiative during a referendum andsubsequently appoint someone to execute the agreed actions. Whether itconcerns placing condom vending machines in the Vatican, abduct worldclass soccer players to have them fabricate their own shoes amidstchild laborers or boycotting the nuclear energy negotiations betweenRussia and Iran, the initiatives of "8th Wonderland" always make theworld press and the virtual nation becomes immeasurably popular veryfast. Parallel with the success, inevitably the first obstacles andissues arise as well. Frauds declaring themselves the mastermind behind8th Wonderland, the safeguarding of loyal members after they riskedtheir lives, dealing with the public opinion in case of falseadvertising or unpopular initiatives or feeling the burning breath ofhunting FBI services in their neck. "8th Wonderland" definitely isn'tan adrenalin-rushing thriller (most of the time it's just peopletalking straight into the camera, like they are in chat rooms) but it'snevertheless a compelling and politically engaging cinematic experimentthat deserves all the praise and recommendation it can get! Thecharacters are identifiable, the depiction of the media and publicopinions are accurate and precise and the dialogs are stupendouslywritten. Some of the discussed initiatives of the 8th Wonderlandcommittee appear to be far-fetched and impossible to carry out, butthere's always a logical clarification of what they do and a plausiblebreakdown of how they do it. The credibility of "8th Wonderland"largely relies on small but important and punctilious details, like forexample the chatters occasionally mixing in words and swearing of theirown native language, authentic news bulletin images and reports andmembers deciding to leave the group out of fear for retribution. Theensemble cast is marvelous and the computer engineered effects (forexample, the illustration of a virtual chatting circle) are reasonablyimpressive; especially for computer illiterates like myself.Recommended in case you're on the lookout for something entirely new,refreshing and creative.

    2. (johannes-damarowsky)
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      After reading the divergent opinions about this movie I realized I hadto see it for myself in order to know if it's a waste of time or theopposite.

      My conclusion had to be: it is not.

      Although I can imagine people describing the plot as unlikely, Iwouldn't consider it unrealistic. The movie itself is more of acase-study of a certain chain of events, showing different aspects andeffects. I would definitely say it was interesting and appropriate forexpressing an idea: that technology will certainly change the shape offuture life.

    3. dreirad
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      From what I had heard and seen, I was expecting a good idea wrapped inlow production values ruined by poor acting and realisation. I was morethan pleasantly surprised. The film was so well told and the story soengaging that the low production values didn't matter. The acting wasgood enough to not distract me from the story. I wasn't bored once, itwas a compelling and entertaining experience.

      People here complain the discussions were tiring. Ever been to agrass-roots democratic plenum where a bunch of people tried to come toa decision by talking about it? Those real-life discussions are tiring,really tiring. Compared to them, the discussions in the movie arebreezy while still very true to what grass-roots democracy can soundand feel like.

      Yes, certain elements of the story may seem naive or simplistic. Andyes, it's a very talkative movie. If you are easily annoyed or bored bylots of talking, than this is probably not the movie for you.

      I would really recommend it to everyone else though for its unique ideaand storytelling.

    4. Mac from Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      Due to a full sneak preview we bought tickets for Knight and Day butthought, let's sit on the floor and take a look what's coming at sneakpreview. The first minutes were strange but promising for a movie tothink about. After ten minutes we preferred to remain on the floor towatch this great movie. It sure wasn't an expensive production, but whoneeds that? The two directors did an immense great job with that idea.It has infectious ideas for freedom, democracy, the wish to make thingsbetter and sure, if it played in Hollywood with reaching the rightamount of people, the potential to change things. But neverthelessthere are a few contradictory parts. No brain-roasting Hollywood shi*,great movie to see, going to watch it witch my girlfriend again atpremiere in Germany!

    5. Sebastian H from Berlin, Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      I dare say the audience at our local surprise sneak preview theater isa hardened bunch. Yes, some of us have been attending the traditionalweekly sneak showing regularly for well over a decade. We have hadatrocities like "House of 1000 Corpses" and "Street Fighter" forcedupon us. But we still come back every Thursday. Maybe we *do* have amasochistic streak after all.

      And today we were served again with this cinematic dud that ranks upthere with the worst of the worst. I don't know where to begin. Theannoying visualization of "internet chat room", most likely anout-of-the-box Adobe Premiere effect. The fact that *everything* inthis movie is conveyed by an unnerving, never ending, multilingualdialog where apparently the idea of quality was sacrificed forquantity. The cheap green screen technology. No characters to identifywith. And the whole idea behind the film feels so flat and naive, it'sa pain to watch. You could literally feel the audience detach from themovie in disbelief during the first fifteen minutes.

      For a student group assignment at a film seminar, this would be a finework. But it's a long way from there to the movie theater.

    6. dralla-1 from Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      I hope many people go see this movie. Because: A sorrow shared is asorrow halved. If this movie was written by a five year old and made bya bunch of high-school kids, then it is OK. But I don't think that isthe case. I can't tell you much about the movie, because I have seenonly 30 minutes of it, but so have many people in the audience. After20 minutes of this I have been betting with my friend that people wouldsoon start to leave. But nobody moved. And since we were in the middleof a big packed theater I didn't want to be the first one to stand up.10 minutes later my prayers were answered and the first few started tostand up. Within a few minutes I think a quarter of the audience leftthe theater.

      So what is the problem: Well the idea doesn't sound too bad. SPOILER >A group of people want to change the world and try to force it intochanging the way they think by various acts of terrorism. So far somovie-realistic. But why are they people like: a model? (who has thetime to join live-chat-conferences with the rest of the group during arunway presentation when she is supposed to change) a guy who is goingto college to become a doctor and his fiancée. A Muslim girl who liveswith her dad. And so on. How do these people find the time to organizecrimes that involve abducting three of the best football playerswithout getting caught? < SPOILER Never mind, I agree that it onlytakes great minds and determination to do all that. But the people ofthat group seem like they are hardly able to use the computers thatconnect them to one another. And then they go on discussing their aimsand their beliefs in discussions that seem to last for half an hour,which can't be true because I have only seen half an hour of thisschool-production and there were at least two discussions. And alsothere is some really bad acting. Most actors did well, but two were sobad that I didn't know if they were supposed to be drugged and hystericor simply annoyingly bad. There is nothing more I want to say aboutthis. Only that I really like movies and up to this point there wereonly two movies I haven't watched till the end, both of them becausethe people I was with didn't want to stay until the end. But this oneis the first I walked out on. I did have the thought with a few moviesbut I never actually did it. And with this one it took me only half anhour. Once again: if the filmmakers are under 18 years old I apologizeif not: see above.

    7. utopyah from Frankfurt, Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      This is the first movie I ever walk out from (after suffering throughit for an hour). Badly played, naive, and simply plain boring, it alsolacks original ideas and is filled with long dialogues leading nowhere.

      There are too many characters for any of them to have any depth, thesituations are sometimes grotesque (a girl casually reading thenewspapers in front of her web cam while she is supposed to talk abouta way to "save the world", another guy discussing secret schemes aloudin a crowded internet café, a CIA agent logging in and chatting aloud(too) with the wonderland group right next to his colleagues withoutthem even hearing him?!). Anyone seems to be able to join the group,yet personalities and the CIA strive to gain access to the website?!After a while, you just wish the characters would shut up. Not onlybecause their dialogues are bad, but because their acting is bad tooand the situations are totally unrealistic.

      It could have been a great movie. It was greatly screwed up. And allthe people leaving the room confirmed this impression. Thank you, comeagain!

    8. RedOne82 from Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      I never wrote a comment on IMDb, but at this time i have theresponsibility to warn everyone from watching this crap. I really haveseen a lot of bad movies in my life, but this movie is the worst i haveever seen. The dialogs are unsubstantial, the "special effects" looklike they were made by a 10 year old boy with magix video deluxe andthe story….there is no story! It's like they filmed a lot of crap,throw the dice and put it all together. Before you go and watch thismovie think about watching the whole IMDb bottom 100. I thinks thatsthe better idea!

      I leaved the movie after 30 minutes…..I WANT MY 30 MINUTES BACK!!!

    9. marekmcmanus from Germany
      30 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

      I too was one of the unfortunate few people who had to suffer throughthis "movie", during a sneak preview night. Well at least the first30-45 minutes of it, because that was when me and my mate left.

      I just can comment on the production value and the crafting, becauseuntil the moment I left I still had no idea what was going on in thismovie. I only learned what it was actually about after skimming throughthe plot on the internet. Apparently some intellectuals try to make theworld a better place. Watching the first 30 minutes it never occurredto me, that I was watching a bunch of intellectuals. It looked morelike a bunch of students and stereotype bad guys. None of the actorsleft any impression what so ever on me or stood out. They all seemedpretty generic and replaceable.

      The production value appeared to be pretty low in general. Some sceneslooked like they were shot in the actual living rooms of the "actors".Whole scenes looked like they were taken directly from youtube. Atleast they had the look and feel of some youtube videos. Some sceneswere set in some kind of fancy chat room, that looked like anout-of-box after effects effect. In those scenes all they chat roomparticipants were projected in a circle of screens, surrounded by somematrix-esqe code bits flying by. Compared to the broader spectrum offilms those effects were pretty bad, but in this movie they actuallylooked neat compared to the rest.

      Do yourself a favor and skip this movie.

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